It's not. I mean, it's not if you're just talking about the machine. It hurts, but I understand it.

[Licking his lips, he listens to Cisco, and then nods.]

Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. And...and...you don't have to not talk about Ronnie. It's okay if you do. It hurts, but I don't want you to hold back that part of yourself from me. It's okay if I hurt a little bit, and it'll get better.